General Pre-Release Discussion

I’ve been doing the research for putting together the HKG Route guide recently, and was a little bit saddened to find out that no AJ21s actually fly into HKG in real life, so that is kind of a bummer for realistic route players :confused:

However, the first AJ21 flight to HKG took place a couple weeks ago from China southern, but it was only a one time flight, so I may include that as a ‘route’ for the guide so real route players can have at least one AJ21 at HKG. What do you guys think, include it or don’t include it?

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You don’t have to include them.

But you can note for an aircraft that can be swapped for a certain route, maybe?

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BTW I am really curious about ARJ21.

I thought it is another MD90 aircraft when I first saw it.

Did MD (or later on Boeing) authorize/license COMAC to develop/manufacture something like the MD90 or COMAC just did a copycat?

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I’m admittedly not too informed when it comes to the Comacs, as they are new and I usually focus more on Boeing/Embraer/Airbus, and I honestly don’t necessarily find them too appealing (IMO). But to my knowledge, the ARJ-21 (C909) is a Chinese design through and through. It’s not completely indigenous, as it does have American-built engines, which I believe are the same ones as the E175, as well as U.S. Avionics and other things like that. I don’t think it is a copy or trying to be like the MD-80/90, I think it’s kinda its own thing.

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I just assumed them to be, perhaps not direct copies, but VERY uninspired, generic designs of aircraft, for the SOLE purpose of having a home grown airframe to cut reliance on foreign planes. As was noted, it is pretty close to MD80s, and the 919 is basically an A320 clone with a different nose. It even uses the same engines, but manages to run them less efficiently.

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Yeah, in my personal opinion, the ARJ-21 is the cooler of the two, just because we don’t see many rear mounted engine airliners nowadays, so it’s kind of unique, but definitely is still somewhat copying MD-90/717.

C919 on the other hand, is just pretty much a copy of an A320 with hints of a BCS3. Like you said @T3X45ranger , one of the main reasons that the C919 exists is to try and compete with western aircraft, but yeah, really just comes off as a copy of the 320.

Still excited that they are getting added to the game though, always love to see new aircraft!

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Yeah for industries that started at the beginning getting ideas from existing products are usually the first step.

If you look at the Japanese electronics, then Korean automobiles, and finally Chinese aircraft… All of them started with copycats, they may be controversial but I don’t deem this as a shame.

So tbh I thought it should have some connection with MD, and it did have a lot of imported parts to make it fly but my curious point would be how deep the connection is since I am also relatively unfamiliar with COMAC.

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I’ve been looking at the route and gates and things. Quite hard with the new T2 not built but looks like all the Japanese Chinese Korean regionals will be over there. Not sure about the legacy carriers if that includes them

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As of now, I am planning to just use the gates from the current terminals. Once the new terminal comes out, I will update the guide as need be.

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…i’ll do it the same way :wink:

What do you guys think will be the starting gates at HKG??? My guess is it will be somewhere at the south apron of T1 (pic) using just 07R for takoff and landing…

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Id love it to be a real start from scratch and just maybe gate 1/2, with the ability to get gate 3/4/5 before having to unlock other parts of the pier. Then have the rest of T1 unlock like MCT

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My guess is based on the BKK precedent and I think it would possibly be some shared C class stands at the midfield remote area.

And both T1 and T2 passenger terminal are in scratch so you probably would pay 30K or so to build them (then unlocks remote stands and extensions), and you may have to build T1 to access the T1 south remote.

I think devs won’t make the early game easy for us :thinking:

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Don’t mind that at all

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Good guess too… that was my second choice. we’ll see what we get :wink:

But no matter where they let us start, im just sooo curious about HKG release :heart_eyes:

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My knowledge of the ARJ is that it is a copycat plane. IIRC MD left a factory behind with all the tooling to make md90s and comac just used it.

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More like a modern DC-9 that seats between 78–90 passengers.

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At least it has a bit of a change to it unlike a lot of other Chinese produced vehicles. It does bear quite the resemblance to an MD95 though just a bit shortened like a DC 9-30 but its lacking the upper windows for that.

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Oh yeah, no I wasn’t knocking it. I don’t have any complaints with the Chinese copying the MD90, just observing that it was basically a clone.

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Oh I know lmao. You’re completely right though it does look like one. It’s just nice to see something that isn’t an exact copy for once.

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