There’s quite a few different livery variations for Condor 757-200s, anything from the livery they got delivered in, all the way to Thomas Cook Globe that was around for a bit with Powered by Condor stickers on it (a Thomas Cook 757 with PW engines really does look odd compared to the British ones with RR engines).
Well, this could be done by making them C class, no?
Apparently we’re the only people who want it as C class ![]()
I’m going to say 90% sure it will. Very iconic livery that has been around for 20 years, didn’t realise it still was.
Maybe C 1/2 class
. It is a bigger aircraft than a 737 and A320 and thus deserves its own spot, but you’re right, it feels to small to be with the 767. I prefer it as is atm until something else appears in the future.
It’s slightly bigger and has a similar capacity than an A321 but def smaller than a 767 plus it’s closer to C class since it’s also single aisle. The 757-300 I’ll give and say add it to the D but the -200 is definitely better off as a C ![]()
The 757 is in such a weird spot because it’s like right between the smaller D classes and the bigger C classes. But I think it’d be a fine C class since, wingspan wise it’s smaller than the C-130J which is currently a C class.
If we’re getting multiple Condor, I hope we get multiple for other airlines like Thomson. Fingers crossed.
Definitely, if the devs can split up the F70 and E170/175 that are B in game from the F100 and E190/195 as C, then i don’t see a problem doing it with the B752/F in C and B753 in D
Yall will have to take your complaints up with ICAO lol. As for a solution in-game while maintaining realism, would just be to allow the B752s a waiver to park in C spots, but that would be very complex for new players who don’t understand the classes, and would be wierd to label on the stands. A more prudent solution would be to upgrade them to D stands, but that raises the issues of being able to park larger D aircraft there, that would be way too long (B753, B767, etc.).
Until (if) the devs make a way for stands to be a by-aircraft basis like it is in real life and not solely a category delineation, then I’m not sure there’s much that can feasibly be done to add the B752 to those spaces. ![]()
I’d agree with you if there weren’t planes that are currently still incorrectly sized in the game. So your point of realism isn’t really supported here to be fair.
That’s why I suggested splitting up the 752 and 753 in C and D categories respectfully
The devs literally just did it with a brand new plane in the game
Well what I’m saying is that there are already aircraft that are D according to ICAO that are C in game, and I’m just suggesting the B752/B752F could be one of them. Idk about the B753 though
Which planes are we talking about that are incorrectly sized?
B: DHC6 (currently A)
C: DHC8, ATR, F70, ERJ170/175, CRJ705/900/1000, B146 (currently B)
D: C130, (currently C)
and the DH64, currently D, should be C
Well, my frame of reference was for the B757 and INN only, so I think my point still has merit. As for the other aircraft being incorrectly categorized, my suggestion of course would be to fix those aircraft. I don’t think some aircraft being wrong is a basis to go and make other aircraft wrong (according to matching ICAO). The real issue here is just how stands are handled in the game. I think the idea of splitting the B752 and B753 classes is a good short-term work-around, but it’s just making the problem larger, and opens the door to more issues/complaints further down the line.
But this issue goes past just INN, i.e. LEJ. With all the cargo stands that used to handle the 75F
Probably the best solution is to update the current category to also include the reference number for main gear span. Then it could it have planes park at stands based on two factors, so let’s say a stand is available for C planes, but up to a certain number/letter (3C) and won’t allow the rest of the numbers/letters to be accessible (3D or 4C and up)
Just my two cents
I see where you’re coming from, but I believe that having some C aircraft be B, for example, is a deliberate gameplay choice. To make certain aircraft easier to obtain/use by the player, such as the CRJs or smaller EJets. It would be harder to use the CRJs if they were all C class in the current system.
And that’s another thing, I don’t think that it would be feasible to make it based on the stand and gate width, and the current ICAO system is probably the best we have. If it was per aircraft, values would have to be put in for every aircraft, and stands would have to have their own width values, and it just seems like a lot of effort for something that really wouldn’t change very much from the current game.
I guess what I’m saying is that we’d be best working within the limits of what we currently have, and if there is a gameplay reason for one plane being a specific class instead of another that it’s totally okay.
Bringing it back to the 757, to me the 757 plays like a C class plane in terms of required crew, handling time, and takeoff/landing behavior. Which is why it feels odd to me that it is D despite that. Considering that, if my previous example, the C-130, can be C class, I don’t really see why the B752 couldn’t be C class as well.
Just have to add my last thought since you brought up the C-130 a few times, and I think mentioned it being bigger than a B757?
Data I can find has the C-130H (the model in-game) as 98’ long and 133’ wingspan. For the smaller B752, it’s 155’ long with a 125’ span—179’ for the B753. So a similar wingspan, but more than 50% and nearly double the length respectively… definitely unruly girls. Compare that to your average C class heroes, B738 and A321 with lengths of 130’ and 146’, and it highlights how much of a pencil B757s really are lol.
Suffice to say, I don’t think resizing the C-130 is a good example haha
That’s cause BA did it as a special before they retired them, pity we don’t have their BA/BEA A319 in game. Anyway hope we get the Chatham Dockyard livery and hopefully TUi.