There have been mentions of them being reworked after the A330s but so far nothing solid so we’ll have to see. Would love to see the -500/-600 fully. Not sure where the devs stand on liveries that were never applied but I’d give my left leg for an Air Canada and Swiss A346 considering both had them on order and cancelled.
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More to do with it keeps the gallery clear, plus on bigger aircraft it’s better to load on the 2nd door then first door as people have less walking too there seats.
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That’s the whole point of generic airport, good thing is you don’t have to play them.
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Single runway airports Europes busiest one London Gatwick & for LCC Ryanair fans London Stansted, or Birmingham, Leeds etc.
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I’m wondering if the devs are thinking about a way to make the 757 its own aircraft category. It really doesn’t fit into the D category, as it is just too small, but it is also a little too big for some C gates, so it’s just kind of in a weird half-way point.
I have mentioned this in the past, but what I would REALLY like to see is this addition of some sort of size class of gate called something like a “C-Plus” gate, which would basically just be a C gate that allows the 757 as well. There are a lot of airports that are currently hurt by the lack of the ability to park 757s at certain gates (i.e. INN, IAD, SAN, MSY), and this would fix those problems.
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True, plenty of other single runway ones in Europe to choose from that aren’t UK based though I am biased for Liverpool lol. Spain has a few which would be perfect for that holiday airport feel, Alicante, Sevilla, Valencia to name a few.
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It’d be a cool addition tbf, the 763’s were nowhere near as common as the 752’s at the airport and we’re missing the liveries used on those 763’s so if they did I’d be very happy.
Though maybe they could add a D-minus gate lmao and the 762/763 could utilise that 
, half joking half serious because it could work. The again, just make a D-Plus and the MD-11 and B764 could fit in that 
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I’ve suggested a fix here, which is also for the 767 family (especially the -400): [Other] - Gate Category Flexibility for Boeing 757 family and 767-400
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Thing is, the game uses the ICAO system, so that wouldn’t fit great.
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That’s true but IRL that system isn’t so black and white and has MANY gray areas so for a game to try and represent that can be done in many ways.
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I have mixed feelings about the C+ / D- / D+ / E- / etc gates.
How will this work with stand purchasing? Are these 4 new sizes going to add 2k Wollars per level to the cost of every stand?
What about with stand blocking? Are we going to have a bunch more things to select here to further configure our airports? On a laptop or iPad I think that fine… but on phones? The UI is already cramped to the point where I don’t enjoy playing the game on small screens and this is ultimately a mobile game.
If the UI / practical applications are solvable I do think that this would overall be a positive change though. Right now D pax that aren’t the B753 and B764 are largely irrelevant outside of extremely niche non player airport routes that it seems most people aren’t flying due to their low profitability on a per runway movement basis, or if they are they are choosing more profitable aircraft to fly said routes. Changes like this that would limit an airport to a B763 instead of a B764 or an A332 instead of a B744 would encourage us to diversify our fleets more and make more aircraft relevant towards optimized gameplay and enhance the strategy of how fleets are constructed and utilized.
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Well tbh I see it only from a contracting stand point and not as my own fleet since I don’t use any of those aircraft. But i wouldn’t think it would make much difference.
But in my opinion everything would first have to be based on actual facts according to real life.
And another way I thought it could be implemented is allowing certain stands at certain airports have an exemption for certain types, like in LEJ, that all C stands at DHL terminal be allowed to accept 75F planes even though the max category would be C. But that would be more of a coding thing.
Because IRL, that’s what the 757 is, an exception that they make due to it’s special circumstances
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The exception is plane size. If it fits, it sits. Could simply change from letters to size ranges with the highest level being actual size. I don’t feel like looking them up, so say A=10, B=20, C=30, D=40. If the stand is currently A-C but its real size is 35, either replace the C level or add a MAX level that goes up to 35.
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Because I don’t know what all goes into this, other than wingspan and potentially range/size of a jetway, what other factors go into “if it fits”?
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I agree tbf. I can see how much of a problem it’ll be for players who own certain types and no longer can use them where they used to. I do fully support your final statement though, diversifying fleets based on the airports would be great. Too often you see players just operating 787’s and A380s to maximise profits and range and it’s a bit sad to see a lot of the niche aircraft get left out, would be ace if their profitability’s are updated so that airports could be better limited and niche aircraft get more use.
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The great thing about this game is each player can choose his fleet to have planes that make him happy not sad.
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Actually, I think maybe it could work like this: let’s say a C gate at MSY is capable of handling the 757 family. Instead of saying A-B-C-D, it could go like: A-B-C+ or A-B-C-(D-) or something. It looks pretty simple on paper, but it would probably be much harder than it seems. I don’t think you would need to add more stand levels, just add a + or - in the purchasing options. This would also create a new class in the shop too A→B→C→C+→D→D+ etc.
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The other thing is called “outer main gear wheel span”, which is just the distance between the two back wheels which are closest to the wing. It’s more used for if the plane can taxi at an airport, but it’s also used for if an airplane can fit in a stand/gate or not. NOT part of the ICAO Aerodrome Reference Code is the length of the aircraft, which is enforced if a plane doesn’t have enough pushback clearance. Example: At some E gates, only the smaller side of planes fit like A359 and B789, but not the B77W because it might block taxi traffic from behind or it might not be able to get out of its gate. I saw one of these at SAN new T1 (the stop marks said B789 and B772 but not B77W)!
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Well yeah, it’s why I have a fleet of A340-600’s. But my point is that too often you see people using one type because its so much more skewed with the xp and cash you earn, like the 787 and A380.
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I agree with this in spirit (though maybe gender neutral language would be beneficial when talking about a community that isn’t 100% guys!!)
But, I do think the lack of strategy in developing fleets hampers the overall interest in the game. If you are going to optimize your fleets, you will use a fairly limited collection of aircraft relative to the amount in game. Now I don’t think that this is a simple fix, but some combination of economy / demand changes, adjustments to how airports handle maximum plane sizes, and more airports with quirky runway operations that discourage certain plane types would all go a long way into encouraging diversification of fleets and increasing the strategy around it.
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