E75L/E75S - Embraer E175 (long & short wing)

Topic Title: ICAO code
E75L / E75S

:small_airplane: Aircraft Model (Name & Manufacturer)
Embraer E175 (long wing)
Embraer E175 (short wing)

:globe_showing_europe_africa: Aircraft Category
E75S Wingspan: 26.01m
E75L Wingspan: 28.65m
C

:compass: Purpose or Role in Game
Regional jet

:chart_increasing: Why should this aircraft be added?
The current existing version of the E175 in the game is the short-wing variant and should have ICAO Type designation E75S. The proposed version has ICAO Type designation E75L and has modified winglets that are markedly more angled outwards. All newer versions of the E175, from 2014 onwards, use the long wing instead of the original short wing.

:airplane: Airlines that use it
:united_states: American Airlines (American Eagle)
:united_states: United Airlines (United Express)
:united_states: Delta Air Lines (Delta Connection)
:united_states: Alaska Airlines (Horizon Air)
:netherlands: KLM (KLM Cityhopper)
:japan: Fuji Dream Airlines

:magnifying_glass_tilted_left: Special characteristics or variants
N/A

:camera_with_flash: Optional: Links or references
Wikipedia
E75L Docs & Specs
E75S Docs & Specs

Visual comparison of the winglets
E75L



E75S

As of the E-Jet remodel in 3.0.3, both the E75S and E75L have been implemented in-game, however, both are still under the type E175 (which doesn’t actually exist as ICAO type designation). Given that the separate models exist, are there any plans to make the distinction explicit?

E75S


E75L

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It is B not C class

Based on the ICAO aerodrome reference codes based on wingspan, class C aircraft have a wingspan between 24m and 36m. Based on this classification, the E175 in both cases (E75S/E75L) should be C class. I understand that it’s set as B to make them accessible in early game, however, for comparison, the wingspan of the E190 and E195 is 28.73m which is only 8cm wider than the E75L and that aircraft is classified as C.

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Ah OK. I get it now

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I Honestly wouldn’t mind the 175 and even the 170 being C class, especially for the games performance reasons. Seeing them not backtrack at SXM like the CRJ700/900 looks weird cause they need the roll out

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Devs, is there a chance or a possibility of maybe changing the E175 (and even the E170) to C class as mentioned above?

Would be great for PRG as KLM’s 175 uses the terminal stands and jetbridges.

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If they could bridge the buffer for them to still park at B gates at IAD would make it perfect
It’s just like the 757 being able to park at certain C stands

Any new built EMB 175 has the new longer winglets.

Only the EMB 175 is a C class the EMB 170 is still a B class.

The ICAO Aerodrome Reference Code B is a wingspan between 15m and smaller than 24m and Code C is 24m and smaller than 36m

The 170 has a wingspan of 26.01m, so technically it’s C if we’re going on wingspan.

If we’re going on Outer Main gear wheel span then that’s a B but then it wouldn’t be accurate for example the 757 which is a D according to wingspan but a C according to gear span. But I’ve noticed other planes as well that aren’t classified correctly

But either way the E170 doesn’t operate as a B plane IRL

I’m just going about realism here and not personal preference :man_shrugging: :sweat_smile:

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Yet ICAO has it as a B class, so keep it as that hot enough C classes :sweat_smile:

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Can I ask where you got that info?

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I too am curious where you got this information considering this is what’s stated in Embraer’s own APM

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To do with the main gear not the wingspan according to this.

Well AI gives different answers depending what you ask cause I asked generally and this was my answer I got

for added reference:

Embraer 175

search: In accordance with the table, the reference code for the EMBRAER 175STD and 175LR is 3C.

Embraer 170

search: In accordance with the table, the reference code for the EMBRAER 170STD and 170LR is 3C.

But tbh my overal point is that the devs could consider re-imagining the current categories for stands as it’s much broader than it currently is and could enhance the capabilities of the game more.

At the end of the day, I would also love for the E170 to continue parking with B class planes but operate as the C type it actually is. Same with the 757. Cause it can park with C class planes but it’s technically a D plane.

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So you’re trusting an AI generated overview over Embraer’s own documentation? Yes the gear span (5.20 m) would imply class B but the wingspan implies class C. If Embraer says its a C class aircraft, then I’m inclined to believe them.

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TBH even if Embraer says it’s a C class, I think the bigger point is that it can indeed hang with the B class planes but is officially a C class. It’s like the B757, it can hang with the C planes like the B737 and A320 but it’s still a D.

I’m just hoping for a buffer in regards to operation standards on certain occasions, Like with stand allocations in i.e. LEJ. and I kind of have an Idea what they could do to achieve that

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